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I'm in Massachusetts (ICC 2015 w/ mods) and want to finish my basement walls. I'm thinking about using a combination of 2" XPS, 1x2s horizontal 24" OC, Reflectix (double reflective insulation, here), 1x2s vertical 16" OC and drywall. This should give me R-17 with the XPS (R-10) and R-7 given a 3/4 inch air gap both under and over the Reflectix. Would this be legit? Am I asking for moisture problem with furring between two vapor barriers (XPS and Reflectix)?

Follow-up details: Basement walls are all below ground and over ten years without water after doing some exterior drainage. There is efflorescence so I assume at least some moisture.

I'm not sure where the frost line is, so certainly higher up the wall the ground behind it is below freezing. Not sure of the wall surface temp itself. The basement is generally quite cold.

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  • Are your basement wall below ground? Do you have problems with moisture coming in through the wall?
    – SteveSh
    Commented Mar 3, 2021 at 18:59
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    @SteveSh OP marked the outside "Earth", so I presume below grade. But the temperature below grade also matters, which could be below freezing in MA.
    – P2000
    Commented Mar 3, 2021 at 19:13
  • I am looking for the permeability of the reflective sheet. Are you using "Reflectix® Radiant Barrier (RB4812550)" ?
    – P2000
    Commented Mar 3, 2021 at 19:45
  • Thanks for looking at this. I was planning to use Reflectix double sided reflective bubble wrap (BP24100). Commented Mar 4, 2021 at 1:26
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    Oh and BTW, nice diagram! Getting some posters to put something like that together is like pulling teeth.
    – SteveSh
    Commented Mar 4, 2021 at 15:34

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Putting this into an answer instead of an extended commment.

At first glance having a vapor barrier (the Reflectix) where you showed it makes some sense. Your wall is probably always going to be cooler than your basement. This means that you're more likely to have moisture condensing on the inside of the concrete wall from the room than the other way around (in the absence of any vapor barrier). If that's the case, you want a vapor on the room side of the interface, which is right behind the drywall.

But, you indicate you may be getting some moisture migrating through the concrete wall from the ground - the efflorescence you mentioned. If this is what's happening, that would indicate you want a vapor barrier right against the concrete wall.

So you can see the conundrum here (at least in my mind). You cannot say with certainty which location for an impermeable vapor barrier is correct.

So you might want to consider no vapor barrier or, at most, a semi-permeable one right behind the drywall. The XPS foam board is semi-permeable, so any moisture that migrates through the concrete wall can escape into the room. And the semi-permeable vapor barrier behind the drywall would reduce moisture filtration into the wall cavity.

Finally, my daughter's house in the mid-Atlantic region is similar to yours with a below ground unfinished basement and concrete block walls. She is looking into refinishing the basement, and is facing the same issues you are, so I hoping to be able reach some sort of consensus on this.

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A fast and accurate method is to open a wall example on the site www.ubakus.com and to add/change layers. Switching from U to R values can be done by clicking on the spanner icon next to the result. Here is a screenshot from a similar question for a house in Europe. Condensation behind insulation

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    That calculator is fine as far as it goes. But the issue here is where should the vapor barrier, if any, be placed?
    – SteveSh
    Commented Mar 3, 2021 at 19:01
  • @SteveSh At the most left column, there are 6 dots in each row. By clicking on those dots, dragging and dropping, the rows can be shifted downward or upward in seconds in order to get a new order. Vapor barriers should be among the material list.
    – xeeka
    Commented Mar 3, 2021 at 19:37
  • @SteveSh And at the right most column, a vapour barrier layer (missing in the example) can be switched on and off to see the difference immediately.
    – xeeka
    Commented Mar 4, 2021 at 9:14
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Reflectix relies on air-entrapment to provide the required insulation.

Are you using "Reflectix® Radiant Barrier (RB4812550)" ? It's perforated precisely for the purpose of venting, so you'll likely have no moisture issues.

But if the permeance is low (i.e. a good barrier) I wouldn't create a moisture trap between the XPS and foil. Venting with air-passages is not an option of course, as it would undo the insulation effect.

You could consider breathable insulation, like fiber glass panels. Or start with thicker XPS and skip the foil.

Also, your local building code would specify the required XPS thickness, which is determined by typical moisture and temperatures, above and below grade.

The point is to ensure any condensation happens on the warm and open side, where it can breathe into the room.

You also don't want moisture from the outside "Earth", entering through the concrete (and XPS), to be trapped and accumulate without the possibility of airing and drying. This would be very little, of course, because XPS has low permeance. However, where XPS is applied as a vapour barrier it still permeates enough to require venting on the inside.

Then there is the risk of inside moisture permeating through the foil and condensating between the Reflectix and the XPS, but this depends again on the permeance of Reflectix, as well as the outside temperature (and of the "Earth") and the thickness of the XPS.

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  • Thanks for the information. I was thinking about the double sided, bubble wrap-like Reflectix. I hadn't considered the foil only option, more like a space blanket. The documentation for foil-only option only mentions attic applications. Commented Mar 4, 2021 at 1:37
  • @escapethecube seems that's primarily for wrapping HVAC systems, and I suspect it has no permeance and would not be suitable. If space is a problem, maybe fiberglass ceiling tiles are better for you?
    – P2000
    Commented Mar 4, 2021 at 4:05

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