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History:
A year or 2 ago, my fridge started leaking from the freezer (bottom freezer) so I tried to fix it myself, assuming that the drain was clogged.
I discovered that a large ball of ice had build up on the copper pipe leading to the coils in the freezer, so I broke it up, melted all the ice, and made sure the drain was clear.
After that, things worked pretty good except the ice ball was reforming. But I put off doing anything about it because we have a separate chest freezer. So we just didn't put much in the fridge freezer and it never leaked again, but cooled great.

Current Problem:
Yesterday I got ambitious and figured I'd attempt to fix it for good. My thought was that the copper coil was supposed to have insulation on it since it probably doesn't get warm like the rest of the coils and evaporator during the defrosting stage, so it just never defrosted that part.
So I melted all the ice away and tried packing some insulation around it to see if that would help. Throughout the day it seemed to work fine, stuff got cold.

But then this morning my fridge was warm and the coils in the freezer won't get cold anymore. I ripped out all my insulation thinking I'd covered a temp sensor or something, but it still won't cool.

I opened the back of my fridge and the compressor seems to be running. It's humming and is hot, but the coils are currently at 11 C and probably because that's the air temp in the fridge now.
It was getting cold all day yesterday after I put the insulation in. It just stopped overnight.

The fridge is 6 years old.

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  • Ice on the coils can indicate a low freon condition. or a bad defrost circuit (probably the most likely scenario since it seems to run fine other wise). Or a bad temp control circuit - continual running despite reaching temperature.
    – Ken
    Commented Feb 24, 2018 at 3:05

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Defrost cycle. Your defrost timer, element or thermistor are probably bad. If you unplug it and after it has warmed and defrosted, then you plug it in and it works for what seems to be a day, then ice builds up again, then its not defrosting as it should. This ice build up will block the fridge vent and not allow the fridge to cool. This non-defrost will make the freezer think it has cooled to the temp you selected because the thermistor is covered in ice. Its hard to figure out which part unless you have the tools. A multimeter would allow you to test the defrost element and the thermistor. Just your ear and hands would allow you to check the timer (assuming it is a manual timer) by manually rotating the timer to different spots. Make the unit click on, run for a bit, listen and feel for cold air. Turn it and make the unit turn off. If you can do this successfully, the timer is most likely ok. Another test to check the timer, is to move it just before or after the flip on/off time, and let the fridge do it by itself. If it does, then the timer is ok.

Once you have verified the timer is ok, you can test the other two with the timer. Set the timer to the defrost cycle and let it run a complete defrost cycle. Check for water and ice in the areas you found them before. If present, then the element is not defrosting/melting the ice. Move on to the next test.

The thermistor is a tricky test, I had a bad one, but it never tested bad. You can take it out, place it in warm water and get an ohm reading, then place it in ice cold water and get a different reading. Compare those to the specs listed for that thermistor. Out of spec means the thermistor is bad. I would bet that the thermistor is most likely your culprit. It is what tells the defrost element to turn on or off to defrost and melt the build up of ice.

Before you test the element ,if you have a bad thermistor, replace the thermistor and run the unit for a day and monitor it. Do the timer test to see if it is now defrosting. If not, then continue to the element test.

The test on the defrost element, you do need to remove it or isolate it from the rest of the fridge usually by unplugging it, you use the ohm setting on your meter again, and test for continuity. Open circuit, bad element, closed circuit, good element.

I would do these tests in this order as the parts get harder or more complex to remove or find.

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    Hey, so we talked to a technician, he was confident I'd damaged the piping somewhere and the refrigerant slowly leaked out. the fact that the compressor is running makes be believe that it wouldn't be the timer or thermistor. since it wouldn't run the compressor if it was stuck in the defrost cycle. Commented Feb 23, 2018 at 0:43
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I have found more often on modern refrigerators that a low charge causes the lines to ice up and not cool properly, in fact I have a 1/2 size fridge in my office that has this problem. About once a year I have to add 3-4 oz of r134a and it will be fine for another year or so.

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  • I was thinking the same thing just a little bit ago. In this case you could potentially add a leak sealant, but be prepared for it to possibly plug an orifice. But topping off R-134a certainly is easy to do!
    – Jeff Cates
    Commented Feb 22, 2018 at 22:50
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    I don't care for sealants as they can plug capillary tubes, in automotive I will use them but not so much for fridges and AC units.
    – Ed Beal
    Commented Feb 22, 2018 at 23:41
  • After talking to a technician he think's it's a leak that I caused while breaking the ice out. He said it's usually very difficult to find and seal such leaks. Commented Feb 23, 2018 at 0:45
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    A sealant may work if the hole is tiny a one. A tech should have a detector that could pinpoint a leak quickly, but sealing the leak won't make it run unless recharged, if there is still pressure in the system a simple recharge may be all that is needed since it was icing prior to the cleaning.
    – Ed Beal
    Commented Feb 23, 2018 at 13:58
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    Op can get a detector usually they sniff for halon - but not all are created equal. Personally I would check thermostat for proper operation first, then I would suspect a leak if that checked out ok. If the op used a heat gun to melt ice (Correct) or if op used a screw driver chisel (WRONG) to break ice - would say whether he shot himself in the foot.
    – Ken
    Commented Feb 24, 2018 at 3:08

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