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Dec 13, 2021 at 19:57 comment added Jasen from the count of cable-ends it's failrly clear that these two switches are on a switrch loop with no neutral.
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Dec 12, 2021 at 23:18 comment added Harper - Reinstate Monica Switch positions don't help, they differ on every switch. Please go to the browser you posted your question on, and edit your question to tell us "how wires are grouped into cables" and 3-way screw colors. In fact, the 2 brass 3-way screws are for travelers, so feel free to just say something like "black and red from cable 1 are travelers".
Dec 12, 2021 at 21:25 comment added jay613 There is a way to configure an old (not smart) three way switch where one of the switches is on a switch loop and does not have a neutral available. Black connected to white is a sign you might have this configuration. It would help if you identified which wires come from which cables where there is more than one cable entering a box, and also the color of the screws they are connected to on the old switch.
Dec 12, 2021 at 21:12 comment added manassehkatz-Moving 2 Codidact Is there a way to safely install this if I don't have two WHITE wires, but do have a BLACK and WHITE wire connected together? This sounds like "connect to the neutral bundle" - that may or may not actually be necessary. However, black and white together are definitely NOT neutrals! White in a cable can sometimes be hot, and that is quite likely the case here. But black can never (except really large sizes, not applicable here) be neutral.
Dec 12, 2021 at 21:06 comment added ThreePhaseEel Can you post photos of the insides of the boxes involved please?
Dec 12, 2021 at 20:59 comment added manassehkatz-Moving 2 Codidact Unfortunately, switch positions don't mean much on 3-way switches - varies by brand and product. What colors are the screws on those switches (the "top left", "top right", etc.) - normal choices are black, brass, silver. Also, each of the switch boxes likely has 2 cables - can you match up (don't move anything, just tell us what you have) the black, white and (for one cable in each box) red - so that we know which wires are "together".
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