Timeline for Installing a GFCI with wires from "line" to "line" instead of "line" to "load."
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| Aug 24, 2021 at 12:57 | comment | added | Ed Beal | All receptacles in out buildings are required to be GFCI protected there are no code exceptions unless your local AHJ has eliminated this section of code. I doubt it was exempted. You made the statement that he told you to do it ,,, not that he did it , as all these comments show it is not legal for a receptacle in your pool house , garage, garden shed, barn or any other out building to not have GFCI protection. | |
| Aug 23, 2021 at 20:15 | comment | added | Adrien | The outlet I was talking about for my irrigation is located inside a pool shed that is protected by the elements and is at least ten feet away from the pool. Again, I worked with a licensed electrician in my area. There were other things we talked about him doing that he would not do because they were not legally up to code. So I don't see how he would not know this. | |
| Aug 22, 2021 at 2:09 | comment | added | manassehkatz-Moving 2 Codidact | He wired a separate outlet that is no longer GFCI for the irrigation so I won't ever have this problem again. That is DANGEROUS. It is not only outside, so required by code to have GFCI, but it is a WATER-related receptacle. Water and electricity don't mix - at least not safely. The very fact that it used to trip is an indication that there was a danger that it was protecting you from - possibly saving your life. | |
| Aug 14, 2021 at 16:40 | comment | added | Ed Beal | @george Anderson in our jurisdictions it is legal in some inside cases but the Pacific Northwest has multiple exceptions to the NEC even though we are on the 2020 code version. There are many states there are no exceptions and the outside water timer not being protected is similar to a case I know of where a family took another family member to court and the home owner lost a sizable judgement I remember him being more upset because the insurance company lawyer stated it was a good thing the person died if disabled the judgment would have been 10x | |
| Aug 14, 2021 at 16:24 | comment | added | Ed Beal | Adrien, All receptacles outside require GFCI protection there are NO exceptions in a wet area. pools haves required GFCI protection prior to my apprenticeship in the 70’s and yes if some e is injured because you removed a GFCI even if not required when built but installed later, replacement receptacles are required by code to meet code. I can not remove or bypass a GFCI because of legal lability, it sounds like you now have multiple code violations that could end in injury or death and believe me there are lawyers that will clean you out even from in-laws injuries I have seen it in the past. | |
| Aug 14, 2021 at 15:06 | comment | added | George Anderson | I can't believe you got 2 DVs on this! I thought it was code legal to replace GFCI breakers/outlets with ones that didn't have GFCI protection in situations where you got nuisance trips, esp. when on fridges and freezers. | |
| Aug 14, 2021 at 1:45 | comment | added | Adrien | I don't think it's something he's telling me to do because if he did it he would lose his license. We had him also do some rewiring for outdoor outlets near our pool equipment and outdoor kitchen area. Before he came along we had a GFCI outlet that I was using to plug an irrigation timer into. The GFCI was tripping now and then which resulted in me not knowing that the trees I planted this past winter weren't getting any water. Well, $500 of a waste later all of my trees are dead. He wired a separate outlet that is no longer GFCI for the irrigation so I won't ever have this problem again. | |
| Aug 14, 2021 at 0:12 | history | answered | Ed Beal | CC BY-SA 4.0 |