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I have a half bath to which I'd like to add a shower. It is quite small; currently, the smallest shower pan I've found (32"x32") is too large to fit. I've considered turning the entire room into a 'wet room' like I've seen done in Europe, in which the entire room is the shower, and the toilet and other fixtures are all waterproof.

However, keeping resale values in mind, is this an accepted approach in US bathroom design?

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I think all the answers here are convincing me not to do it, because I can't see how it would not look more strange than cool. I'll keep thinking it over tho, thanks for all the input! –  morganpdx Jan 31 '11 at 20:51
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Very European due to small spaces. Hell to keep clean. –  shirlock homes Feb 1 '11 at 0:03
    
@shirlock Oh? I'd like to hear the downside of these types of rooms...not having much experience with them myself. –  morganpdx Feb 1 '11 at 0:05
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I have never built one. I have seen many of them when I was stationed in Germany. The key was a tiny slope to the drain. The real downside in my opinion, just an opinion, is that the floor gets so wet when the shower is used. If someone comes in just to use the toilet with shoes on, then they get wet and track it outside the room. Slippers get wet etc. Also, when using the shower, water, soap, etc tends to splash onto the walls and other fixtures if the room is very small. Practically, it is important to use a waterproof bonding layer under the tile floor and walls to prevent leaks and mold. –  shirlock homes Feb 1 '11 at 0:51
    
Just thought I'd add this photo of one I saw recently houzz.com/ideabooks/272504/list/Bathroom I thought it was super cool, until I realized how terribly inconvenient it would be to use the toilet soon after someone showered due to the wet floor (for example). –  msanford Feb 27 '11 at 5:14

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I worked as a contractor for years and there is really only one rule... There is always a buyer, if you wait long enough.

Having said that, 'wet rooms' are not very common in the US at all. In the 100's of homes I've worked in I've only ever seen 3 of them. My advice here is two fold.

First: If it is worth it to you do it and don't think re-sale, you may lose money, but if it makes your life a lot better for the years that you live there it's probably worth it.

Second: If you decide to go this way, do it right! Make sure you take lots of photos to show people, have (and keep) all of the permits, and make it look perfect. People who would consider buying it even if they may not be familiar with a 'wet room' will run if it looks shoddy or sub-par.

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Personally, I've never seen a house with one, and I've looked at a lot of houses. That said though, I still think it's a pretty interesting idea.

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Depending on the size of the space, it may end up being useful for a disabled person.

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I think if you do it right, and make it look upscale, it can even be a selling feature. As you described it, I was thinking so long as there are glass walls or something, it would probably look pretty good. First search on google found a picture of exactly that:

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I totally agree with boxed-dinners, if you cheap out on it or don't do it properly, it'll scare people off. If someone looks at the room and thinks "Ok, I have to remodel that bathroom" then they're not going to be willing to pay as much.

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That's a cool looking one! However, the dimensions of the room are 5'x4', so my reasons for doing it is that no other shower option would fit. In reference to the picture, the width is about the size of the shower+ toilet, and that's the long edge. Add clearance for a doorway and you have no usable space for a traditional shower. –  morganpdx Jan 31 '11 at 20:48
    
I think "upscale" is the key -- the few I've seen have been touted as upgrades. If it were done cheaply or badly, it wouldn't be much of an upgrade! –  Mike Powell Jan 31 '11 at 21:01
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Wow.. my basement powder room (toilet + sink) is 5x5, which is fairly spacious for what it is.. but I'm looking at it and really having trouble seeing a shower to be honest. Literally, you're going to have water all over everything. Definitely get a very easy to clean toilet and sink - no little crevices. In fact, a toilet like the one in the above picture may be a great way to go. You're also going to have to put some consideration to water proofing the door, and preventing water from getting out underneath it. –  gregmac Feb 1 '11 at 3:50

I was living in England for a while and the hospital housing I lived in we all had wetrooms. I am now back in the usa and we are renovating our home and I would love to add a wet room to the house. I think the bathroom that the OP is planning to use as a wet room is way too small. In London the bathroom was a larger than normal standard bath. the shower area was bigger than a tub and the toilet was right next to the shower area and we had a shower curtain to separate the shower from the toilet.

When we took showers the rest of the bathroom never got wet at all not even a little. The entire room floor was covered in a vinyl one piece that covered the shower walls and the entire floor.

I cant imagine having to dry up the sink and toilet every time i take a shower.

You would be better off not doing it; your space is just too small.

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To answer the DIY bit about shower pans that won't fit --

They sell these kits that are basically styrofoam drain pans, that you can cut to the size you want, put down a waterproof membrane, and tile over. Search for 'styrofoam shower pan kit'.

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As for how common they are, I can only remember seeing one modern (within the last 60 years?) home with wet rooms in the US, and it was more the scale that gregmac linked to, (and it happened to be my dad's house that he had built).

In his case, he had them built specifically for accessibility; they were on the first floor, where he was expecting that he might have my step-mother's mother move in. There was a slight dip as you entered (not enough to adversely affect a wheelchair, but enough to keep water from coming out), and there were hand-rails and a built-in-seat in the shower area.

However, I've been in some tiny wet rooms in Europe. The smallest (less than 5'x3'?) was in a hotel in Venice, as a retrofit -- as you entered the bathroom, there was a tiny sink to the left, and a small toilet to the right (a tankless model, or the tank was in the wall, I'm not sure how they do it in Italy); the door opened out, and there was barely space to stand in between the two. There was a rubber drainage grid on the floor, as the whole room itself was the shower. (the toilet paper roll was mounted higher up, out of the shower spray, and had a self-closing protective plastic cover). You might get some points for creativity, but I'd likely just advertise it as a half bath, and see if people notice that there's a set of controls on the wall and a shower head in the ceiling.

I've also seen some creative sink mounting, where if you have a tank on the toilet, the sink mounted just above it (but didn't come out so far that it came out past the front of the toilet tank).

Other things to consider are the doors -- I don't know why American homes always seem to have bathroom doors swing in, but if you can swing out, it'll feel much more spacious; if you have reasons you can't do that, try for a pocket door.

And the only other places I've seen wet rooms (other than older homes, with claw-foot tubs), are more industrial/commercial -- like one of the bars I used to go to. It was subtle -- there was a high ceiling with a shower head mounted almost touching it, and a sign next to it that said 'Budweiser, Rinse, Repeat'. People who had been regulars for years hadn't even noticed it. Hospitals, as Joan mentioned, they're pretty common, or hotels with a 'handicap accessible' room. Locker rooms in gyms or schools are another place.

And I agree with gregmac -- don't go cheap on it, or people might compare it to gas station bathrooms.

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From the sounds of it, you have a very tiny room. If it were me, and I really wanted a full bath in there, I'd try to come up with some sort of crazy solution. Here's one idea: a moving panel that would protect the toilet during a shower, but would allow the toilet to be uncovered and used easily.

Shower Use:

...................Shower
.........................
.........................
D........................
...D.....................
......D..................
Toilet...................

Toilet Use (door slides up):

D..................Shower
D........................
D........................
D........................
.........................
.........................
Toilet...................

The sliding panel would be on a track, moved by a motorized pulley. Here's what that would look like:

P........................
T..................Shower
T........................
T........................
T........................
..T......................
.....T...................
Toilet...................

If designed correctly, the track could be completely concealed. No moving parts required other than the motorized pulley.

You could even make one wall of the shower into a retractable sink that rests within the shower when not in use, but would be pulled out when either was needed.

Unfortunately, this type of stuff would take a competent designer to pull off. Unless you have a great deal of confidence in your ability to solve problems, I would consider other options. That said, I think it can be done without being overwhelmingly tacky.

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A few thoughts..

Firstly have a look at some caravans to see how a shower and toilet can be fitted into a small space.

Next if you don’t need wheel chair access you can put a bar at the door to stop the water coming out and/or make the floor slope more than normal to keep the water in.

You can get a lot smaller shower pans, they are normal in the UK.

If you use a wall mounted toilet, then the toilet can go over the shower pan. You could have a wooden “deck” you put over the shower pan when you are not using it, it give a more normal floor to walk on.

Also consider using a pocket door to give yourself more space to work with.

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Boats are another good place to look to see how they deal with small spaces. (and they might be higher-end than your typical caravan (a trailer or RV, for the Americans)) –  Joe Feb 27 '11 at 3:39

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