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We have an old house (100+ years) with original door frames. The top hinge on one door has come away from the door frame - the wood is split and soft, so the screws have no bite.

I'm thinking the best way to fix this, short of ripping out the whole door frame, would be to drill out the split wood, chisel it square, then glue in a new piece of wood for the hinge to be screwed into.

Is this a wise move or is there a better way?

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Everybody will tell you to simply glue toothpicks in the holes, but your plan is a better solution. –  Tester101 Nov 1 '13 at 21:04
    
To be clear, the entire area behind the hinge is bad? Because if it's just the screw-holes, see this question and the related questions it links to. Also, we love photos. –  Niall C. Nov 1 '13 at 21:04
    
Have you thought about embedding nuts in the patch-block you plan to place? Since you're in there you may as well size the patch-block to your hinge, find some flat-headed bolts that have matching short-nuts, drill just enough space for the nuts on the inside of the block, and holes through the other side for the bolts to grab them from, then place the patch block with nuts inside the jamb. –  Jimmy Hoffa Nov 1 '13 at 21:23
    
@NiallC. I think you should make your comment an answer. –  bib Nov 1 '13 at 21:41
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Photos! Photos! –  Bryce Nov 3 '13 at 2:08
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Since you say that the wood under the hinge and around the hinge screw holes has split and gone soft it pays to check the wood of the door jamb adjacent to the hinge mount location as well. If the wood there is not sound then you are likely looking forward to some more serious repair such as replacement of the jamb side board or the whole jamb.

If the adjacent wood is still in good condition it may be possible to cut out the the piece under the hinge plate and replace it with a new block of wood. Edge gluing of the block of wood into place will require a very close tolerance fit and ability to clamp it into place to get the strongest joint possible. The best side for the wood to bond well with the new piece is along the grain so make sure the insert piece has the same grain orientation as the jamb. Then you can clamp across the jamb and to do so it would be necessary to remove the casing trim along the hinge side.

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I would not drill out and chisel the the opening to shape as it would be a lot of work to get the tolerance necessary for a decent wood glue bond to the insert piece. Instead I would use an oscillating multi-function power tool similar to that pictured below. Using the plunge cutting blade like the middle one pictured it would be easy to cut out the damaged piece from the jamb with nice straight and square cuts.

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Once you have the new piece glued in place and you go to remount the hinge make sure to drill appropriate pilot holes for the hinge screws so as to avoid splitting the insert wood piece.

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I actually did this before reading this answer: I forgot I had a Dremel if you can believe that! In the end I drilled, chiseled, and sanded the hole until I got a very tight fit for the new piece of wood; tight enough to require tapping into place with a hammer. I will leave the glue to cure overnight and then I may well pop a couple of small nails in to add strength. –  ElendilTheTall Nov 2 '13 at 15:55
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The short answer is longer screws, plus some glue.

There should be plenty of extra room for longer screws on both the door and the jamb. If the hinges are brass, solid brass screws are best. Pre-drill. At the same time stick in a small strip of wood soaked in wood glue into each hole just to be sure. Toothpicks, chopsticks or similar dry wood work well.

For bonus points sand off the lacquer coating on any solid brass screws you buy, so they will tarnish faster and match your hinges.

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yep, screws that bite the jack stud –  mike Nov 2 '13 at 4:19
    
Yes, this is the answer I'd go for. Given that it's an old house, I assume these are heavy solid-core doors. As such, there should be at least a couple of screws in each hinge that secure all the way into the framing. –  DA01 Nov 2 '13 at 17:42
    
And check any "solid brass" screws with a magnet (: –  User58220 Nov 3 '13 at 2:18
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I would find myself a 1/4" or 3/8" diameter toothpick. Drill out the holes to the same diameter as the toothpick, insert some glue, and tap the toothpick in with a hammer.

If you have difficulty finding toothpicks that large, Use dowel.

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Cheap bamboo chopsticks also work well. –  bib Nov 1 '13 at 21:40
    
Golf tees work well and are cheap. –  Gunner Nov 2 '13 at 3:43
    
Dowels work well for this, just remember to use a dowel much larger diameter than the screw. You'll also want to drill pilot holes, as the dowel patch is likely to crack and split if you don't. –  Tester101 Nov 2 '13 at 12:32
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