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Had electric inspected today and only thing inspector said was that my grounds were messy on a metal box (still code but messy). 3-gang box with three light switches running in different directions. How would you tie them in together to both look neat and have room for everything?

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I would tie them all together in one nut, spliced to an extra wire that goes to a green screw in the box. What did yours look like? (pics?) –  BlueRaja - Danny Pflughoeft Sep 6 '13 at 21:02
    
I had one wire wrapped on box screw. One wire out from that and then all others nutted together from there. Boxed up and being drywalled right now. –  DMoore Sep 6 '13 at 21:22
    
Perhaps he would have liked to see the solution labelled "Reduce the Number of Pigtails" in this answer: diy.stackexchange.com/a/26576/14416 where one continuous wire is used and wrapped around the correct terminal on each switch. –  user14416 Sep 6 '13 at 21:27
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This is where copper crimp connectors come in handy.

Copper Crimp Connectors

Lets say you have a 3 gang box, with three cables entering, and three devices to connect. You also have to bond the grounding conductor to the box, if you're using a metal box. So you might have three grounding conductors entering, but need 4 grounding conductors, and they all have to be bonded.

Leave the grounding conductors from the three entering cables long, and get a scrap piece of bare wire to use as a pig tail. Feed the three grounding conductors through the crimp connector, so that there is enough wire left to connect to the devices. Insert one end of the scrap piece of wire into the connector, then crimp the connector.

Crimped grounds

Now tuck the crimped grounds back in the box, and attach the bonding wire to the box (using either a screw or ground clip). Attach one grounding conductor to each device, and you're done.

Alternatively, you can leave one conductor really long (while still including the extra bonding conductor), then use that single conductor to connect all the devices.

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250.148 Continuity and Attachment of Equipment Grounding Conductors to Boxes.

(C) Metal Boxes. A connection shall be made between the one or more equipment grounding conductors and a metal box by means of a grounding screw that shall be used for no other purpose, equipment listed for grounding, or a listed grounding device.

So, if the box holds a lightswitch that has a grounding screw, there's no need to separately ground the box, since the connection with the lightswitch provides the path to ground.

If this is a junction box with no devices, there should be a screw (separate from the ones holding the box up) in the box that you tie the ground to. The typical way to do this would be to run a separate bare (or green) wire from a screw (typically green) in the box, spliced together with all the rest of the ground wires in the box.


It's unclear from your comment, but it sounds like you're grounding to the screw holding up the box - this would be against code.

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@BlueRaja-DannyPflughoeft From DMoore's comments, I gather that your suggestion in this answer sounds very similar to what he did. It is possible that his inspector would not like your wiring either since there are ways to use fewer wires and reduce the number of pigtail connections as Tester101 points out (which not only looks cleaner, but reduces the total volume occupied by the ground wires and has fewer breaks in the wire which means decreased potential for mechanical failure). –  user14416 Sep 7 '13 at 14:00
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I'd like to see further reference on using a switch as "equipment listed for grounding". I've never seen a box grounded only via the switch/outlet in it. This seems exceedingly dumb to me -- you're relying on flimsy little screws with a poor connection to ground, not to mention when you remove the switch the box is ungrounded. In fact, that is probably the reason that they have added ground screws to the switches in the first place. Either way, it's not a big deal to always ground the box itself, so why not? –  gregmac Sep 9 '13 at 14:03
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250.148 (B) Grounding Continuity. The arrangement of grounding connections shall be such that the disconnection or the removal of a receptacle, luminaire, or other device fed from the box does not interfere with or interrupt the grounding continuity. –  Tester101 Sep 10 '13 at 20:12
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@BlueRaja-DannyPflughoeft There are no receptacles and/or luminaires "listed for grounding". –  Tester101 Sep 10 '13 at 20:26
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The equipment the code is talking about is ground screws and ground clips. –  Tester101 Sep 10 '13 at 20:26
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