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We are redecorating our hall. We have stripped all the wallpaper off and have discovered that the plaster behind is not in great condition.

What suggestions do people have for preparing a slightly damaged wall for painting? (See photos below)

Our budget is fairly low. I think a professional re-plaster is probably out of the question.
Is lining paper a sensible option?
Are there any other products or techniques suitable?

The house is ~1920s.

Update: I've had a quote from a plasterer - £400 to have the hall & stairs fully re-plastered. I know it's hard without seeing the size, but does this sound reasonable for a short hall and stairs? It's also way above my budget though so any other cheaper suggestions or advice would still be welcome.


80% of the wall is passable. The plaster is fairly smooth although there are lots of little bumps. I'm assuming that sanding it down to remove bumps and polyfilla to fill cracks will be sufficient here. Followed by a normal priming process (50/50 paint/water).

Most of the plaster looks like this
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Around 15% of the wall has worse damage. Bits of the top layer (~1mm) of plaster are missing. I don't think polyfilla will work here as I'd end up layering it over large areas.

There are some areas like this
Higher-res

Finally, about 5% of the wall has big cracks:

There is a small bit with large cracks
Higher-res

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Taking things in reverse order:

With the large areas firstly remove any remaining loose plaster. Trying to patch without doing this is a waste of time. Then with the large areas you'll need to replaster. You can either take this as an opportunity to learn or pay someone. I won't tell you how to plaster as it's really a skill you have to be shown or practise yourself, though I do have a couple of bits of advice. Don't try to plaster the whole wall in one go. Take it in stages and make sure you dampen the wall you're plastering onto as it helps the plaster stick.

With the areas missing the top coat of plaster you will need to reskim. This should be done after fixing the base coat. You might find a plasterer willing to skim over your base coat - discuss it before you start. This will give you a good finish but should cost less than hiring a plasterer to do the whole job. Getting a good skim finish takes a lot of practice.

Finally the areas with only minor cracks and bumps should be filled and sanded before proceeding.

If you manage to get a good surface then painting is the best option. If not then paper the wall with two layers of lining paper. The first runs horizontal and the second vertical. This will smooth out most of the remaining unevenness in the wall. Before papering wash the walls with a weak glue solution this will stop all the glue from the paper being absorbed into the plaster and the paper lifting off the wall.

I should have added that you need to leave the plaster to fully dry out before painting or papering. That might have been one of the reasons why the previous repair has failed.

UPDATE

The quote you have doesn't seem unreasonable but without knowing the exact area you need replastering or your location it's difficult to say for certain. However, we shouldn't be getting into commenting on exact quotes as they are always going to be too localised (in time and space). Get another quote to compare it against - that's always going to be the best option. Also as I said above see if you can get the plasterer just to do the final skim - it should come out cheaper.

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Thanks for the tips Chris. I've had a quote for £400 from a plasterer (see update). Might have to save a bit for this. –  Simon P Stevens Aug 16 '10 at 20:04
    
@Simon - see my update. –  ChrisF Aug 16 '10 at 20:08
    
@ChrisF: Yeah you are right, exact prices will always vary, I've got another guy coming tomorrow. This guy wouldn't do a partial job as he said it would take just as long waiting for the base coat on the damaged area to dry so would still take him all day. –  Simon P Stevens Aug 16 '10 at 20:14
    
@Simon - I wasn't thinking about getting the plasterer just to do the badly damaged areas, but for you to do the base coat and then get the professional to do the top coat. Not all plasterers will agree to this though –  ChrisF Aug 16 '10 at 20:17
    
@ChrisF: Oh, I see. It might be worth asking him that - although he didn't seem keen on anything but a full job when I tried to negotiate cost. I'll speak to him tomorrow along with my second guy. Thanks - I really appreciate the advice. –  Simon P Stevens Aug 16 '10 at 20:20

ChrisF gives some great advice about how to fix the plaster, but I might suggest something else. Given that about 20% of the wall is damaged to the point that you'll probably need professional help to repair it, I would strongly consider just putting up some new 3/8" drywall over the existing plaster.

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This indeed might be the simplest solution in this case - though removing the remaining loose plaster would still be a good idea. –  ChrisF Aug 16 '10 at 18:41
    
Will this cause problems with overhanging the skirting boards though? –  Simon P Stevens Aug 16 '10 at 20:05
    
Is this something you would advise doing myself (I'm very much an amateur) or is drywall something I need a pro to do? –  Simon P Stevens Aug 16 '10 at 20:27
    
@Simon - yes, if you have trim you would probably need to remove it and put it back up after putting on the drywall. Hanging the drywall is easy (just use lots of glue). Finishing it is a bit tricky, but much easier than doing plaster work. –  Eric Petroelje Aug 16 '10 at 20:39

Get a plasterer in - you will be astonished at how little it costs and how quickly they'll do the job. A good plasterer (in Gloucestershire, UK; urban prices will be more) shouldn't cost more than c. £150-£250 / day all found; in a day they should manage to replaster a complete 10' x 10' room without problems. Smaller rooms should cost less.

Ask around for advice and get lots of quotes. We had a wall 30' x 7' in similar looking condition to yours and estimates ranged from £250 to over £1000!

When you get estimates, say you'll be finishing the wall by painting even if you intend to paper. Lining paper can hide slight uneven-ness so if your plasterer isn't so good he'll cut corners.

I'd be worried about the plaster in the last photo. What made it come off?

(I'm assuming you're in the UK, BTW, as you mention good-ol' polyfilla.)

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Thanks for the advice (and prices). I've literally just updated the question with the quote I've had so far. Now I know I need to carry on looking. £150 I can afford. (Does your price range include materials etc?) –  Simon P Stevens Aug 16 '10 at 20:08
    
(The last photo - It came off as we stripped the wall paper. What's left is literally crumbling off as you touch it. It looks like a bodged repair to me, it's a different colour to everything else and is only in a fairly small area. It almost looks as if it's just been applied directly over the original stuff underneath) –  Simon P Stevens Aug 16 '10 at 20:11
    
@Simon - I agree that the worst damage appears to be a previous repair. As well as not removing all the loose plaster they probably didn't leave the plaster long enough to dry out before papering. –  ChrisF Aug 17 '10 at 10:34
    
Plaster is cheap, it's the labour that costs. My work was for a hall, not a stairwell, which is much harder to get to - your plasterer will most likely be spending most of his time putting up an access platform, then moving it! £400 sounds on the steep side but not out of the question, so yes, keep looking... –  Jeremy McGee Aug 17 '10 at 21:07

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